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Your Life Your Health - The Remarkable Commonalities Between Healthcare Providers in China and the USA
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James L. Holly,M.D.
August 04, 2016
Your Life Your Health - The Examiner

Last week’s Your Life Your Health offered a preliminary report written before the beginning of the two-day meeting with SETMA and the following representatives from Primary Care in China. 

  • Dr. Gu Yuan, The founder of China Family Physicians
  • Dr. William Li Yongwei, Internal Medicine, Dr Gu Yuan’s Assistant
  • Huang Yanli, Wuhou Healthcare Bureau, Director, Innovation Center
  • Dr. Luo Xiaolu, Wuhou Healthcare Bureau,  Director, Tiaoshanta Community Healthcare Center
  • Dr. Ma Xidan, Wuhou Healthcare Bureau, Director, Jitou Community Healthcare Center
  • Huang Lei, Wuhou, Director,  Healthcare Bureau, CDC
  • Liu Jingwei, CETC-SS, Director, Healthcare Transformation innovation Center
  • Hao Jiaping, CETC-SS , Healthcare Business Analyst
  • Chen Zhao Yang, CETC-SS,  Diabetes Doctor
  • Dr. Li De Fu
  • Wei Zhang, PhD, Professor, University of Massachusetts

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Dr. Gu (standing behind my left shoulder) is the leader of Primary Care transformation in China. 

Our first contact with the Chinese representatives was June, 2014 visit, with a second meeting in November, 2015.  In that time, this group has begun the creation of an electronic medical record and has built data analytics functions with excellent reports on the patients in the system.  The system is not integrated as of yet.  The large hospitals have an electronic record, public health has an electronic record and a few community centers do.  None of these communicate with one another.

I am very impressed with the progress they have made, although we all know that this is only a  beginning; it is a beginning.  As we discussed, I am fond of saying that I have started many things which I have never finished, but I have NEVER finished anything I did not start.  There is no doubt that they will succeed.  Liu Jingwei is the leader of the group and by everyone’s agreement he is a driving force who is relentless.  That is what this task will take.

During the two-day conference, we discussed SETMA’s healthcare transformation which led us from adopting electronic medical records to morphing to electronic patient management to the deployment of patient-centered medical home as our model of care.  This led us to an extensive discussion of the tension between technology and humanity.  They were as sensitive as we are to the potential for technology to supplant the concern for the human.  We spent an extensive time discussing how electronic medical records - high tech - should not over shadow the concern for the individual as a real person - high touch.

In our quest for excellence, we must not be seduced by technology with its numbers and tables. This is particularly the case in healthcare. In the future of medicine, the tension - not a conflict but a dynamic balance - must be properly maintained between humanity and technology.  Technology can contribute to the solving of many of our disease problems but ultimately cannot solve the "health problems" we face.  It is my judgment that the major issue facing healthcare delivery today is that men and women, boys and girls have replaced the trust they once had in their physician with a trust in technology.  It is as if the "front porches" of healthcare have disappeared and the air-conditioning has forced us inside the building so that we can't say "howdy" to one another any longer.

The entire focus and energy of "health home" is to rediscover that trusting bond between patient and provider.  In the "health home," technology becomes a tool to be used and not an end to be pursued.   The outcomes of pure technology alone are not as satisfying as those where trust and technology are properly balanced in healthcare delivery.

The challenge for our new generation of healthcare providers and for those of us who are finishing our careers is that we must be technologically competent while at the same time being personally compassionate and engaged with our patients.  This is not easy because of the efficiency (excellence x time) of applied technology.  A referral or a procedure is often faster and more quantifiable than is a conversation or counseling.

The enthusiastic embracing by our visitors of the primacy of each patient was refreshing.  Moving from a paternalistic medical system where the doctor is “in charge” and the patient is essentially passive to a collaborative relationship where the doctor and patient form a team with other healthcare providers is a new concept in China as it was in the USA.  Our visitors have embraced that change and are working toward incorporating it into the entire healthcare system in China.

We discussed one example of care in China where a particular hospital sees 18,000 ambulatory patients a day.  When I asked how many physicians would see these patients, it was determined that doctors had three minutes with each patient.  There was no need to judge that there was no way to do effective medicine in that time frame; they already knew it and want to change it.  We did discuss how electronics can increase efficiency and quality with a growing database which is available at every point-of-care.

In that context, we discussed how healthcare providers can instill in each patient a sense of personal worth.  It is out of the sense of “personal value” that patients are able to make changes in their lives which will make a difference in their health.  We discussed how patients who have a sense of personal value can develop “virtue” which empowers patients to believe and to know that they are able not only to make changes but to sustain those changes until a difference has been made. 

Further demonstrating the similarities in our countries, our friends from China commented that often patients do not trust the healthcare provider and that they respond angrily when things don’t go well.  That is no different than in the USA, where patients will sue any doctor who does not meet their expectations or if the do make a mistake.  We added to the concepts of “value” and “virtue” with the concept that from this foundation will come an extending of “trust” to the provider by the patient.  Expecting patients to trust you when they have no sense of “value” or “virtue” is hopeless, but out of them “trust” will inevitably come.   People who have a sense of personal, intrinsic value can develop the sense of ability to make changes from which will come trust in others.   Perhaps surprisingly, but certainly delightfully, these concepts resonated with Chinese and America alike.

Once a patient is able to trust others, he/she will begin to see the value of collaboration and out of that “team spirit” a new found sense of hope will come.  Hope is the expectation of good things happening and it produces the resiliency needed to maintain the team even when things do not turn out the way we wanted.

There will be more to report in coming columns.  At the end of the conference each person was able to give their summary of the value of the conference and to ask questions.  We taped that almost three-hour session and will share it when it is transcribed.

The delegation from China is on the way to Boston. I have given our Chinese friends a brief introduction to the Institute of Healthcare Improvement (IHI) and to their work in China.  We have particularly discussed The Triple Aim with which they were already familiar. 

I am very impressed with how far Jingwei Liu and his team have come. They are well on their way to deploying an EMR, analytics and continuity of care documents in a demonstration project.  The magnitude of their challenge is great but I believe they have the vision and passion for success.  They have also greatly benefited from the work of Dr. Richard Jackson, formerly of Joslin and an expert in diabetes management.  They will be meeting with him in Boston as well.   They have taken signed copies of SETMA’s TCPI Library for their use in China.  We were going to ship them the 9-volume Library but they wouldn’t leave without a set in hand.

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I have at last committed to visiting China this fall.  I personally feel a kindred spirit with our Chinese friends and am confident that they will stay the course to success. 

The following link is to a presentation on the Importance of Data Analytics in Primary Care Practice which I delivered in 2012 to the Massachusetts Medical Society and which I promised to send to our friends from China:  Presentations - The Importance of Data Analytics in Physician Practice

The following are links to four documents with connections to others of SETMA’s interaction with the Chinese Delegation in three visits (July, 2014; November, 2015; July, 2016).  The titles are self explanatory, I think.  The links at the bottom of some of the references are related to our discussions with China.

Summary of November, 2015 visit from Chinese delegation with links to multiple posts.

November 11, 2015 Follow-up to Second Chinese Delegation to SETMA and Future Plans

Introduction to Story of July, 2016 visit and context of visit

Introduction to the story of the visit, Chinese delegation, July 26-27, 2016

Story of the July 26-27, 2016 Visit From China

Delegation of Healthcare Executives from China: Third Visit and the Transforming Clinical Practice Initiative Library

The following link gives the content of the syllabus prepared for the November, 2015 Visit by Chinese Delegation

November 11, 2015 Follow-up to Second Chinese Delegation to SETMA and Future Plans